Monday, January 1

3000, 2007 and 1428

It's the new year, I don't think I can say "happy" since nothing on the news looks happy anymore.

It's the new year, and George W. Bush has proved that he represents a greater danger to the people of the USA and the world than anyone else. The body count of US soldiers in Iraq has reached 3000, more than the number of Americans who died in September 11. Well, also the number of Iraqis who died because of the illegal Bush invasion to Iraq is many times the number of Iraqis killed by Saddam throughout the past two decades.

I'm not glad that all these people died, but I am glad that the people of the USA now can see their mistake, and be able to realize that George W. Bush represents the greatest threat to the world today. He is, by all means, more guilty of crimes against humanity than Saddam Hussien, not forgetting how guilty Saddam was. Bush has certainly contributed to making the world a less safe place to live. A lot is to come during this year, not much good is predicted anyway, but we shall see If God wills that we live long enough to witness what is going to happen.

The year 2007 has just begun, and 1428 (the Muslim Calendar) is about to begin shortly too. Let us pray that these two new years will come with peace, security and prosperity to Iraq and the entire world.

13 comments:

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Anonymous said...

Hey Majed.... I read what have writen & it was very interesting. Honsetly brother, you were 100% right...
I hope they kill bush in the Christmas Eve ;-)
Keep up the good work buddy !!!

mathijs ter wee said...

Hello Majed Jarrar,

First of all, I agree that Bush is a bad egg. Just like most politicians. Therefore, I am a libertarian. I would probably be frustrated if a foreign country, let’s say Belgium, invaded the Netherlands.

I think it does not matter whether an invasion is legally just. Most invasions are not legally just. NATO interference in Yugoslavia for instance was not in compliance with international law, but I think there are few people that would argue that the intervention was morally unjust. Of all the interventions in the world only two were in compliance with international law. In general, law says nothing about morality.

I doubt whether Bush is the greatest threat to the world. The feeling of being threatened differs from person to person from place to place. An actual threat is hard to measure. Since the past 100 year the number of countries that are hostile towards the US and visa versa is declining. Those left are not the nicest ones. Think of North Korea Byelorussia. It is fair to say that Bush made this world a more violent one. One the other hand, Islamofascist probably killed other people in a different country. Think of Somalia, Sudan or Afghanistan (or whatever shit hole).

I think responsibility can be divided into several degrees. The number of innocent Iraqis died through actions of American soldiers are between 4500-6500 (I’ve a complete list for the ones interested). With all the respect for these persons, Saddam has more blood on his hand than Bush. Besides, these people, except a few, are not killed by soldiers who had the intention to do so.

I recommend people to take action instead of praying.

Take care,


Mathijs ter Wee

murid_aisha said...

Sallam Majid,

Sorry.

May the next years bring prosperity and return of peace to your homeland.. blessings to your family and meditation to your heart.

Peace~Sallam,
aisha

Syafiq said...

God Bless Islam! Forever! Keep it up :-)

Majed Jarrar said...

mathijs ter wee,

I think it does not matter whether an invasion is legally just. Most invasions are not legally just. NATO interference in Yugoslavia for instance was not in compliance with international law, but I think there are few people that would argue that the intervention was morally unjust. Of all the interventions in the world only two were in compliance with international law. In general, law says nothing about morality.


I think it's a bit unfair to say that there were only two 'legal' invasions ever happened in history...
maybe you mean in the past 50 years, and I still think that is inaccurate.



I doubt whether Bush is the greatest threat to the world. The feeling of being threatened differs from person to person from place to place. An actual threat is hard to measure. Since the past 100 year the number of countries that are hostile towards the US and visa versa is declining. Those left are not the nicest ones. Think of North Korea Byelorussia. It is fair to say that Bush made this world a more violent one. One the other hand, Islamofascist probably killed other people in a different country. Think of Somalia, Sudan or Afghanistan (or whatever shit hole).

having law as something that does not serve morality means that there is something with the law. however, this still does not justify illegal warfare, and as long as we live with this current incomplete/inaccurate law, as long as we have to abide by it, and whether or not scenarios of Somalia, Yugoslavia, etc.. turned out 'well', this doesn't mean that they are moral or legal.

you are arguing that a thief who breaks into a house and mends the fridge on his way is a good act.

you should reflect on this law/proverb longer "the purpose does not justify the method".

Also, when you want to criticize islamist extremists please don't generalize to criticize Islamic countries or peoples, I hope you have more respect when you talk about Islam, or any Islamic countries, we don't call your country a shit hole so have some decency.

number of countries against Bush is not an indicator of his threat, however the number of people that were killed, injured, suffered illness or maltreatment etc... by him or his leadership is the true indicator.

It is a undebatable that peoples of the world are much more hostile and full of hatred against the American administration now than 50 years ago.


I think responsibility can be divided into several degrees. The number of innocent Iraqis died through actions of American soldiers are between 4500-6500 (I’ve a complete list for the ones interested). With all the respect for these persons, Saddam has more blood on his hand than Bush. Besides, these people, except a few, are not killed by soldiers who had the intention to do so.

are you trying to make a fool of yourself?
so you have the list of numbers, but you are unsure the number, not that but you give a two thousands figure range! do you understand what does two thousands mean?
honestly, just think of one moment about your entire neighborhood, or all the friends you have ever had, that does not exceed half that number.
have some humanity for God's sake.
and have some accurate numbers too!
the survey which I was involved in, Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict (CIVIC) helped us to find out that the number of Iraqi innocent civilians who were killed NOT in war zones since beginning of war and until May 1st, 2003 (when Bush declared the war was over, ha ha.) was 2081.
see the list of all names, ages, occupations, and addresses of civilians
http://civilians.info/iraq/

I would love to see your list.

also, see the Iraqi Study Group Report which estimated the current body count to 655,000 Iraqis.
http://www.bakerinstitute.org/Pubs/iraqstudygroup_findings.pdf

I would love to see your list.


I recommend people to take action instead of praying.

I recommend people to never stop praying, taking action, becoming active, and most importantly, never stop the justified moral armed struggle against the illegal immoral troops until they completely go home.

Majed Jarrar said...

oh and, Aisa,

thanks a lot!

wonderful poems you got there :)
I used to write little & very humble poetry... haven't do so in a while, I guess life is not giving me a chance to take a breath and reflect.

keep up the great work... and ... helping others (I really liked that !)
:)

Mathijs ter Wee said...

Majed Jarrar,

“I think it's a bit unfair to say that there were only two 'legal' invasions ever happened in history...
maybe you mean in the past 50 years, and I still think that is inaccurate.”

In modern positive international law two invasions could been seen as jus ad bellum: The Korean war (resolution 85) and the Gulf war (resolution 678). However, there has always been discussion about the just war theory. In the end the winner writes history as they say. How it ends will determine the judgement about the Iraq war. Nobody would now complain if there was no civil war, but a booming economy in Iraq.

By the way, the current conflict is not illegal by international law because the US is now invited by the Iraqi government.

“having law as something that does not serve morality means that there is something with the law.” Morality itself is of course a major topic for discussion. There is even doubt whether morality exists. Morality acts often independent of law. For example, I can choose to be a friendly person. There no law for this. Law is used to protect the order, property and liberty. It provides security and stability (a certain predictability).

“however, this still does not justify illegal warfare, and as long as we live with this current incomplete/inaccurate law, as long as we have to abide by it, and whether or not scenarios of Somalia, Yugoslavia, etc.. turned out 'well', this doesn't mean that they are moral or legal.” Would you argue that the intervention in Kosovo was morally unjust? There would probably live few people in Kosovo if we were bound to international law. Do also abide laws that are immoral?

“you are arguing that a thief who breaks into a house and mends the fridge on his way is a good act.” Could you give some more explanation? I am not arguing that the invasion in Iraq is morally just. It would never have happened if I was the president. Apart from this, you are now introducing private law which is different than public law that we have been discussing.

I can make some positive point about the war against Iraq

1)It puts considerable pressure on Syria and Iran.
2)The Iraq war might have resulted in Libya abandoning its program for weapons of mass destruction.
3)New technologies are developed, tested and used. Microwave weapons, MQ-1 Predator, sound weapons, XM307, XM 25, and probably some other stuff.
4)New strategies and tactics are used.
5)Institutions can learn and adapt.
6)It is better to fight them overseas than at home.
7) Progress is not something linear. Progress is achieved step by step. Although major parts of Iraq are in civil war, Kurdistan has a huge change of becoming independent in the future and thus able to develop itself.

I don’t see why I should respect Sudan, Somalia or Afghanistan. Respect is something that should be earned. Could you give a definition of an Islamic state?

Islamist extremist, Islamofascists and political Islamist, it seems to be all the same.

I am not unsure about the number, it is an estimate. It is based upon iraqbodycount.org Remember by far, the most innocent civilian in Iraq die by Muslims killing Muslims.

I couldn’t find the number in the report of ISG. I think you mean a research done by The Lancet. The research is controversial of mathematical reasons. See: http://www.slate.com/Default.aspx?id=2108887& The methodology which they used is controversial as-well. At last there is a semantic problem: The body count does not make a distinction between the several kinds of casualties in the conflict.

The Logic Times has an interesting articles as-well: http://www.logictimes.com/antiwar.htm http://www.logictimes.com/civilian.htm

“It is a undebatable that peoples of the world are much more hostile and full of hatred against the American administration now than 50 years ago.” Arabs are of course short-sighted as usual. There is a huge outcry if the US invaded Iraq. Things are remarkably quit on the other hands if Sudan kills deliberately over 200 000 people. There are plenty similar examples.

“do you understand what does two thousands mean?” Yes, 2000 is just that, 2000. I am not a oversensitive person, more rational one. What happens in Iraq is nothing special. It happens in many parts of the world.

Anonymous said...

Iraqis catching and turning over all alqueda head-lopping, murdering, homicide bomber operatives within it's borders would go a long way towards sending the US home.

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